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“Leaky” Exhaust Vents – The 500-lb Gorilla of Condensation Problems

Posted By WSRCA, Monday, November 27, 2017

Courtesy of: Phil Dregger - PE, Technical Roof Services

Phil Dregger is a Professional Engineer, Registered Roof Consultant, Fellow of the Roof Consultants Institute, and President of DNG Group Companies - Technical Roof Services and Pacific Building Consultants – in Concord, California.  Mr. Dregger has investigated, designed, and provided expert testimony involving roofing and waterproofing systems since 1984.  Mr. Dregger has special expertise in code compliance; wind damage, roof drainage; and analysis of condensation problems.

  


Many factors contribute to excessive condensation in low slope membrane roof systems installed over wood decks with insulation below; high interior relative humidity (RH), high roof reflectance[1], and especially air intrusion[2].  One contributor - the impact of warm humid air leaking out the ends of improperly terminated exhaust vents - is like the proverbial 500-lb gorilla.  We are keenly aware he is in the “reroof” room with us but have done a pretty good job of ignoring him.  When this big guy creates a problem, however, roof professionals are often asked to explain why they did not “correct” the improper exhaust vent termination conditions before installing new flashing assemblies over them.

This article will explain why complete discharge of exhaust air - especially gas combustion products - is so important, will review code requirements for termination of exhaust vents, identify tell-tale signs of existing condensation problems, and will offer ways to avoid exhaust vent-related condensation problems.

Although broken or disconnected exhaust vents can pose an even more serious problem, this article will focus on how improper termination of exhaust vents can contribute to excessive condensation in low-slope membrane roofs.  All photos in this article are courtesy of DNG Group Companies - Technical Roof Services and Pacific Building Consultants - and show projects located in California in ASHRAE Climate Zone 3.

Soft Spots – Serious condensation problems usually start with someone noticing a soft spot like that shown in Figure 1.  Usually, the soft spot is positioned near a “high” point on the roof, usually the roof construction contains air spaces with cold surfaces, usually the reroof membrane is considerably more reflective than the old roof membrane, and more often than not the roof is installed over a residential occupancy.

Before we go further, let’s review some condensation related concepts: relative humidity, dew point, radiative cooling, and convective air currents.

Dew Point and Relative Humidity (RH) – Let’s say it is 52°F outside and foggy.  The air can’t hold any more water vapor.  It is at its dew point temperature.  It is at 100% RH.  The water vapor present starts condensing on exposed surfaces.  Since warm air can hold more water vapor than cold air, if we let this air inside and heat it up to 72°F, its RH drops to 50% but the dew point temperature doesn’t change.  So, if we cool down the air back down to 52°F (the dew point temperature), condensation of water on surfaces will begin again.  Pretty straight forward.  Condensation is primarily related to the temperature of the air and the surfaces it encounters.

What we need to keep in mind is that on most winter nights the temperature of our wood roof decks, when we insulate below the deck, gets well below the dew point temperature of the air inside our buildings even here in sunny California.  This means that if the air inside our buildings were to come into contact with our wood decks at night, it would condense.  It does and it does.  I’ll explain why.

Smoke and Dew - Two things we learned as kids.  Smoke rises and dew forms on grass overnight.  Later someone explained to us this was because warm air is less dense than cool air (thermal buoyancy) and surfaces exposed to a clear sky at night lose lots of heat (radiative cooling).  This means that the air inside our buildings naturally wants to rise up into our roof assemblies.  And, if it’s cold outside - and especially if the sky was clear overnight - the intruding air will cool down to its dew point temperature and condense inside our roofs.

This happens all the time and usually our roofs have enough water storage capacity that it doesn’t create a problem.  But sometimes too much water ends up condensing and things we don’t like to talk about start to grow, and wood starts to decay.  At the moment, I’m referring to condensation of water vapor that hitched a ride up into the roof on a convective air current.  It can get a whole lot worse if the air we’re talking about condensing is being propelled under pressure out the end of an improperly terminated bathroom fan duct or gas flue vent.

There are two basic kinds of exhaust vents: environmental air ducts and gas vents.  Living units (single family homes or multi-unit apartment buildings) typically have two or three exhaust vents per unit; something like 1 or 2 every 1000 sf of roof area.  Roofs over most non-residential occupancies have far fewer exhaust vents.  Figure 2 shows a high concentration of exhaust vents on the roof of a three-story apartment building.

Environmental Air Ducts - Environmental air ducts are typically single walled, do not have any required clearances from combustible materials, and are connected to exhaust fans serving bathrooms, stove hoods, and/or clothes dryers.  The exhaust air is “pushed” along by a fan.

Gas Vents – Gas vents are typically dual-walled, require minimum clearances from combustible materials (because they can get hot), and are connected to appliances like gas water heaters and gas furnaces.  By the way, when gas is burned it produces heat, CO2, and lots of water vapor.  This is why you sometimes see water dripping our of a car’s exhaust pipe.  Water heaters typically rely on convective currents to carry the combustion products up and out of the gas vent.  Furnaces typically have “draft” fans to help push the combustion products up and out of the gas vent.

If the gas combustion products are completely vented to the outside, great.  If not, you can get serious condensation and wood decay.  Figure 3a shows a “soft spot” (red arrow) found next to an improperly terminated gas vent.  Figure 3b shows the gas vent improperly terminated inside the roof flashing assembly very near deck level.

You might ask, “How, then, are exhaust vents supposed to be terminated?”  Good question.  It depends on the type of exhaust vent you’re asking about.  Code requirements for environmental air ducts and gas vents are different.

Code Requirements – The 2013 California Mechanical Code (CMC), based on the 2012 Uniform Mechanical Code , Chapters 5 and 6, requires environmental air ducts, including joints, to be substantially airtight and terminate outside the building at least three feet from openings into the building.  Note:  The 2013 California Residential Code refers back to the CMC for requirements.

The conditions shown in Figures 4, 5, and 6 were all discovered while investigating “soft spots” on reroof projects.  Figures 4a and 4b show a “wet” cover board next to 7” air ducts which terminate below 5” T-top flashings.  Figures 5a and 5b show two air ducts positioned in one oversized deck opening and terminated inside one large roof flashing.  Figures 6a and 6b (red arrows) show a rectangular air duct stopping at deck level and then “extended” upward using a round roof flashing.

It is not clear if the metal flashings installed over these air ducts would be considered extensions of the duct or not; or if the openings in the decks around the ducts would be considered “openings into the building”.  Nevertheless, these duct terminations and flashing conditions were all strongly suspected to allow some portion of the exhaust air to flow back into the insulated rafter spaces and make a major contribution to the excessive condensation conditions present.

Gas vents have different termination requirements.  The 2013 CMC, Chapter 8, requires gas vents to extend completely through roof flashings, extend to a height at least 12-inches above the roof deck, and have “listed caps”.

Figure 7 shows two properly extended and terminated gas vents.

Know Your Codes – Codes address other aspects of roof construction that potentially impact how much water accumulates in a roof assembly.  I’ll mention just two:

·       The 2013 California Energy Code (CEC), Section 110.7, requires sealing of joints, openings, and other potential sources of air leakage into or out of the building envelope.

·      The 2013 California Building Code (CBC), based on the 2012 International Building Code, Section 1203, requires cross ventilation of “enclosed rafter spaces”.

Code provisions are amended and/or interpreted on the local level; sometimes quite differently.  Accordingly, I suggest roof professional review local code amendments and/or seek clarification with the local code official regarding how various code provisions apply, or don’t apply, to specific reroofing projects.

Compact Roofs and Framed Roofs - Borrowing terms coined by Wayne Tobiasson of the Cold Regions Research and Engineering Lab (CRREL), I refer to the roofs with rigid board insulation above the deck as “compact” roofs and those with batt insulation below the deck, as “framed” roofs[i].  Some roofs have or end up having insulation above and below the deck. I call these roofs “a good idea”.

West Coast wood framed roofs with only batt insulation below the deck are inherently prone to condensation.  They are prone to condensation because they contain air spaces with cold surfaces.  And, usually, the air inside the building has a pretty easy time working its way up into these air spaces and condensing.  Compact roofs, on the other hand, have limited air spaces with cold surfaces (e.g., joints of insulation boards) and by their very construction naturally resist air intrusion.  We’ve talked about this before. [1]

Blindsided – The most common cause of a serious condensation problem (e.g., soft spots) is, well, an existing condensation problem.  This is true regardless if the existing problem is due to intrusion of high RH air or leaky exhaust vents.  In such cases, if highly solar absorptive roofs are replaced with highly reflective roofs, roof professional can inadvertently kick into high gear existing condensation problems; and end up wondering what hit them.  Note: The same physics apply when a “cool” coating is applied over a “non-cool” roof membrane.

Many older low slope membrane roofs installed over wood decks with insulation below have condensation problems; they accumulate more water than they should.  Usually, however, they also have roofs that absorb lots of solar radiation.  The highly absorptive (non-highly reflective) roofs get hot whenever the sun comes out and work to rapidly dry accumulated water downward.  This can keep even fairly serious condensation problems at bay for years.  When these roofs get replaced after 13 to 18 years, they often require replacement of an unusually large amount of deck; enough to make a roof professional wonder why the owner didn’t complain more about roof leaks. 

Keep this in mind.  A large amount of deteriorated wood decking without a corresponding high number of reported leaks, is a telltale sign of an existing condensation problem.

Unfortunately, when an existing condensation problem is unleashed by installation of a “cool” roof, wood decks can starting showing nasty bite marks (e.g., soft spots) after just a few years.  This was sort of an epiphany to me; and maybe to you too.

As mentioned above, the silver lining to this ominous cloud is that existing condensation problems usually exhibit telltale signs - if you know how to read them.

Warning Signs – The best time to find out a roof has an existing condensation problem is before the roof is specified and bid.  However, the best time to see warning signs is during roof removal.

Before tear-off warning signs include reports of roof leaks when it is not raining, soft spots not near penetrations or flashings, ceiling stains near high points, and multiple stains below metal hangers.

During tear-off warning signs include more decay than the number of reported leaks suggest, decay at locations not readily explained by roof leaks, and exhaust vents that terminate very near the roof deck.  

Figure 8 shows an area of concentrated decay.  The area is not near a low spot or next to a penetration but penetrations are nearby.  No rain leaks were reported and the top of the gypsum ceiling boards had only limited stains.  The decay is not reasonably explained by a roof leak – it is a telltale sign of an existing condensation problem.

Low Exhaust Vents - When “low” exhaust vents are uncovered, extend them in accordance with code requirements.  Obtain the assistance of a mechanical engineer or a design/build mechanical contractor as needed.  Figures 9a and 9b show one example of how existing low air ducts can be extended and flashed.

Summary - The best way to deal with a 500-lb gorilla is to swing open its cage and face it head on.  Keep in mind improperly terminated exhaust vents can discharge large amounts of water vapor into enclosed rafter spaces and that some roofs rely on solar heating to keep excessive condensation in check.  Extend and flash low exhaust vents, as needed, in compliance with local code requirements.  Watch for telltale signs of existing condensation problems, especially if your project involves replacing a highly solar absorptive roof with a highly solar reflective one.

If unusually large amounts of decking need to be replaced and the large amounts can’t be reasonably explained by roof leaks, investigate the cause; it is likely due to the intrusion of high RH interior air and/or leaky exhaust vents.  Depending on the results of the investigations, air sealing around penetrations, adding rigid board insulation above the roof deck [i] [ii], repairing exhaust vents, and/or upgrading mechanical ventilation systems inside may be warranted. 

Note:  The 2013 CEC, Section 150, based on ASHRAE Standard 62.2-2010, now requires mechanical ventilation for all low-rise residential buildings for indoor air quality which also really helps to control interior RH levels.


[1] P. Dregger, "Cool Roofs Cause Condensation — Fact or Fiction?" P. Dregger, Western Roofing, Jan/Feb 2012.

[2] P. Dregger, "Air Infiltration: The Enemy of Wind Resistance and Condensation Control," RCI Interface, June 2002.

[3] W. Tobiasson, “Roofs”, ASTM Manual 18 2nd Edition, January 2009

[4] A. Desjarlais, et al, “Hygrothermal Performance of West Coast Wood Deck Roofing System”, Nov 2013, Pub 47188.

[5] P. Dregger, “Good But Potentially Misleading Guidelines”, RCI Interface, May/June 2014.

 

 

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Stan Robinson, Pacific West Roofing, LLC says...
Posted Friday, January 19, 2018
Phil does such an exceptional job in explaining condensation and air sealing that it makes it actually exciting to be a part of an industry with such conscientious people. These are the types of problems we see in the Portland Oregon region and battling it alone with building owners is impossible without this third party verification that helps us explain our position and show building owners their sticky position if they don't make the needed corrections. Thanks Phil, we owe you a world of gratitude!
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